9/28/2005

What Friedman is proposing is to outsource ethnic cleansing

Unfortunately one can be intelligent and be a sociopath. Friedman isn't dumb, he is just amoral -- law

If they won't [come around], then we are wasting our time. We should arm the Shiites and Kurds and leave the Sunnis of Iraq to reap the wind. Tom Friedman September 28,2005

Comments on Friedman's statement:


What he is saying (4.00 / 3)

is that we should arm the Shiites and Kurds and then let the Sunnis "reap the wind." In other words, Friedman supports the massive killing of the Sunnis. That's 20% of the population. Make no mistake--that's what he's recommending.
When I read it, I couldn't believe it.
by kimster on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:11:02 CDT

Reap the Whirlwind... (none / 1)
last time that was used was Bomber Harris. He killed at least 1,000,000 German civilians in area bombing. Also note Fiedman's slip of teh tongue--The US and UK have not actually provided the Iraqi army with real equipment yet. We have not been giving the Jafari or Alawi the real means to win an insurgency despite all the bullshit emanating from CENTCOM.
General Franks:"Give the eye-rabs artillery and tanks? Why the fuck would we do that?! We would be the targets numbnutz"
by Salo on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:20:43 CDT

Yes, exactly (none / 0)
"Washing our hands" would be, like, withdrawal from Iraq - i.e., what most people at dkos favor (although Juan Cole probably has it right that we should withdraw ground troops but still provide air support and such to help defend the government).
What Friedman advocates is that we tell the Sunnis to either cooperate or we're going to sponsor an ethnic cleansing campaign against them. I wonder if he would advocate a similar solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Let's give the man credit, though. He has actually managed to propose a foreign policy MORE monstrous than the Bush Administration's. That's not easy to do.
by Steve M on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:29:20 CDT

exactly (none / 0)
Washing our hands would be pulling out. You hit it dead on that he's proposing something running the gamut from active oppression to ethnic cleansing/revenge killing.
I expect Friedman to be full of mixed metaphors and bad diagnoses. I've never known him to be objectively evil before. I'm still sifting through what he's written here, because as tin-eared as he is he usually comes from someplace on Planet Earth, no matter how remote. Maybe we're being premature--he can't possibly mean to suggest what he's suggesting, can he?
by KevStar on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:44:29 CDT

Gee, it took Armando a long time (none / 0)

to realize that Friedman is FULL OF SHIT!
Behold the mindset of the neo-con and the neo-con apologist; if you don't get your way, start a genocide.
And the left is accused of Mau-Mauing? If so, I'll take "Jomo Kenyatta" over Tom's willingness to tolerate an "Idi Amin" anyday.
We do not need another massacre, we need disengagement.
"same old fears, same old crimes-we haven't changed since ancient times.." "Iron Hand" Dire Straits
by boilerman10 on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:31:43 CDT

did i not just read somewhere on kos (none / 0)
that long ago it was learned that the only way to beat an insurgency is in fact genocide, such as the Romans practiced with any city that dared to resist. which we have assumed was politically impossible in the 20th/21st century. is it possible that the neocons have decided that the only way out of the iraqmire is to foment genocide?
by Mithrandir on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:37:45 CDT

Why would we need to arm the Shiites? (none / 0)
Iran is already doing a very nice job at that. They know the civil war is coming, and they plan on winning.
by John West on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:54:05 CD

I thought we invaded to avoid genocide (none / 0)
What is the difference between gasing the Kurds and leaving Sunnis unarmed while we arm their enemies ?
What Friedman is proposing is to outsource the extermination of non-compliants.
Horrible, imoral, but not dumb. Unfortunately one can be intelligent and be a sociopath.
by lawnorder on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 10:01:20 CDT

it's a new low! (4.00 / 7)
not only creating the conditions for ethnic cleansing but then actually facilitating ethnic cleansing.
nice!
by British Alcoholic on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 09:12:28 CDT

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